PTP MONTHLY MEETING 27 March 2003
Scribe: EugeneKeam
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AGENDA
1. Multnomah Central Library access
2. Problems with opening a personal node into the public sphere
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AdamShand - no overwhelming security concerns with opening node, study done legal analysis by eff, no liability issues no obligation, personally not a huge risk, next potential risk is bandwidth usage
Audience - should i run a vpn to protect myself
AdamShand - yes that's a good solution if you can do it
LonnieWormley - other solution, shield essid, two wireless points, one private one public
Audience ? what kind of solutions for high speed ap
AdamShand - maps.personaltelco.net, enter your address and search for close by nodes,good way to collaborate andshare costs with a neighbor
LonnieWormley - ask around during the monthly meeting
AdamShand - wifi can go up to 30 miles
LonnieWormley - a matter of exploring and sharing with other interested parties
DatNguyen - commissioner randy leonard, city of portland
AdamShand - it isn't just politics, simply financial reasons that hold back city wide usage
Audience - question about bandwidth pollution, any way to use multiple yagis
AdamShand - not recommended to use multiple yagis, patch antenna displayed, recommend two seperate antennas
Audience - what's a yagi
AdamShand - yagis focus 15 degrees, satellite antennas 3-4 degrees, omni-directional wider shaping pattern, antennas don't increase range they just shape
Audience - calculate per foot loss source available on the internet
NigelBallard - search for a microway calculation, they are the makers of lmr cables
AdamShand - waterproof boxes with soekris boxes inside
DatNguyen - pelican case with soekris inside, battery power inside too, rj45 port on exterior
Audience - what is the status of your 501c3 status and what would it open up for ptp
AdamShand - ability to receive donations and to apply for grants, ideal scenario is buy a box, attach to wall, leds light up connect to laptop, this is adhoc networking
Audience - is this more a software or hardware problem
AdamShand - both are issues, best solution now is a soekris box, a box running linux with your special configurations done, then some serious development issues are apparent, example how do i make this scale
NatPowning - nodes on brooklyn, hope for more down brooklyn and connect down the strip
AdamShand - hollywood nodes have been installed, 5 nodes up at one point
Audience - is portland is setting a standard for wifi promotion
AdamShand - i'd like to think so, seattle, bawug, nycwireless
NigelBallard - a huge piece on ptp coming out in the portland business journal, come out 4th april in the telecommunications special
NatPowning - we've done a great job of promotion and press coverage
AdamShand - interesting because when we started we got spurned, but now garnering attention is more accessible, we are attempting to write mappingsoftware again
Audience - doesn't intel have mapping software available
AdamShand - intel has viewed wireless community groups as a disruptive influence, they're not sure what to think of us
NigelBallard - at one time g3 good and wifi bad, now wifi is good and g2.5 is latent
AdamShand - core members of ptp are sadly newcomers to portland, the longtime local support contact is very valuable to ptp
NigelBallard - intel was late to the wifi market, they tend to dam the most progressive technology and they play catchup, they don't like it when they can't steer the industry, apple should be remembered as a prime mover in promoting wifi
SamChurchill - apple responsible for opening up spectrum also
AdamShand - large nation wide isps are almost never going to allow wifi sharing, if you have a cable modem you are limited
LonnieWormley - suggests qwest business class
TheMacStore - comcast doesn't allow business class in the portland area yet
AdamShand - easystreet, aracnet, spiritone, speakeasy are recommended, verizon not sure of their term of service, the isp makes the call, check the ptp section wireless isp policies, cable modems not legal, atg is another isp that allows wifi sharing, tmobile refused to acknowledge ptp in only but press releases, tmobile has acknowledged they will do site surveys
Audience - ocate has been offering wifi how-tos by intel
AaronJohnson - the ocate stuff has been archived on their site
AdamShand - thanks for coming, after presentation we'll go over meeting business and answer more questions
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NEXT MONTHLY MEETING TO BE HELD
Multnomah Central Library
US Bank Conference Room
April 2003
PM