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Location: Likewise, 3564 S.E. Hawthorne
Date and Time: Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 6:30pm-8:00pm
Scribe: You
Roll Call: JasonBergstrom,SpencerByrneSeres,RussellSenior,TomasKuchta,TedBrunner,SteveTree


  • Pick location for next weekly
  • Node notes:
    • NodeKellogg -- outage due to popped GFI outlet, reset, back in business.

    • NodeCedarHillsCrossing -- another DSL outage, after a couple weeks, have requested mall staff request replacement router, or at least frontally assault ISP technical support looking for satifaction.

    • NodeWygant -- want to install an MR24, have the go ahead from the landlord, need to replace the Alix with a Buffalo WZR600DHP again (as it was originally) and prep an MR24 and figure out if we can run a cable into the apartment. Tenants are complaining and anxious for action.

  • LEDE Project -- Russell managed to get iproute2 updated to v4.10.0 (he's the volunteer maintainer of the package)
  • Russell will report on interesting visit to SandyNet board meeting and followup discussion.

  • Russell installed another DIR860L at home of a PLUG friend, measured only 500Mbps upstream, pretty consistently, either 500 or 750Mbps downstream
  • Your Item Here


  • SpencerByrneSeres discussed Internet access in Cuba, and possibility of data exchange with US. webrtc?

  • SandyNet

    • $7M+ capital, $250/connection
    • 20 months cost recovery (hw + install)
    • 2000 customers, 60% of market, many walked
    • $115K/mo revenue, most on 100Mb, dozen+ on Gb
    • 7 people covering install/support/helpdesk (need to fill 2 open positions)
    • Board mostly public employees, Clackamas co. school dist. etc
    • Using one strand of Clackamas public loop (to Gov. Camp) 288 strand total as 10Gb connection to Pittock.
    • 5wk backlog on installs, due to lack of on-hand cash
    • Urban renewal district in Business district, plus multi-unit deployments
    • Ordinance requires conduit for new development
    • Some corp customers (ie Starbucks) have requirement to use AT&T

    • Largest Sandy employer makes manuals for corporate jets
    • Competition is Wave Cable and DSL
    • Legally group was already existing as Sandy Wi-Fi
    • Similarly had financial numbers from Wi-Fi takeup
      • 2-3 years before starting to pay back 20yr bonds
    • BPA fiber deployed about 20yrs ago, may need to be redeployed in right of way through Sandy
    • Using a cheaper indoor Calix device, outside box is just fiber coupler
  • NodeNotes

    • NodeWygant - Roommate on far end of basement, add MR24, discuss $55 from Charlie via LivingRoomRealty

      • already have 3 ports in use, so need to replace Alix.
      • Russell may visit tomorrow as is out Saturday
    • NodeKellog - Reset of GFCI (tripped), now has a cut zip-tie for security.

    • NodeCedarHillsCrossing - Should be requesting a new DSL modem from Integra.

    • NodeLikewise - Russell will install on Thursday.

  • RussellSenior is now maintainer for iproute2 in LEDE and OpenWRT, challenged by "devlink"

  • JJJ node experiencing 500Mb upload speed which is not characteristic of known CenturyLink sites, assume related to HW, possible PTP node?

  • Missed out on previous MR24 offer (10 for $15), now looking at 25 for $300 from same seller.
  • Decamped to Qubo for food
  • KeeganQuinn has suggested April 12th as a negotiable date for a possible Vancouver PTP Weekly.


WeeklyMeeting20170322 (last edited 2017-03-24 11:36:42 by RussellSenior)