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'''6:00 pm:''' Darrin Eden (President) - Welcomes everyone: Explains that PersonalTelco is a forum to share information. Been around for about 5 years. Tonight we will talk about the Mississippi Project, unwiring the North Portland community with free access points (as many as possible). |
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Personal Telco Monthly Meeting for April 27th 2005
When and Where
Urban Grind Coffee 2214 NE Oregon St. (take 22nd Ave. 2 blocks North of Sandy Blvd.)
Wednesday, April 27th 2005. 6:00pm - 9:00pm
Agenda
- 6:00PM - Introduction to Personal Telco for newcomers.
- 6:30PM - New Nodes and other announcements.
- 6:45PM - Presentation:
- 7:15PM - Business followed directly by informal meet and greet.
Audio & Video
http://stephouse.net/?nav=PTPMeeting (live video feed, experimental)
Agenda Items
- Roll Call
- Old Business
- New Business
- Nomination for President
MississippiGrantProject Status
- Kansas City Centurions
[http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php RoofNet] Demonstration
Meeting Notes
Scribe: Sam Churchill
About 50-60 people in Urban Grind Coffee shop tonight for the regular monthly meeting of Personal Telco, Oregons largest WiFi enthusiast group.
6:00 pm: Darrin Eden (President) - Welcomes everyone: Explains that PersonalTelco is a forum to share information. Been around for about 5 years. Tonight we will talk about the Mississippi Project, unwiring the North Portland community with free access points (as many as possible).
6:10 pm: Nigel Ballard (PTP's outreach and publicity chairman)- Hosts introductions: Nigel goes around the room, spotting new people and asking them to say a few words about themselves, their interests, whether they have nodes or interesting skill sets. Nigel says being unemployed, having a car and having Linux skills are all a plus. About 10 new people speak up.
Nigel says the Tempe Arizona "city cloud" RFP was awarded last week. AOL was one of the 7 that applied for the Tempe build. He said having AOL as a "city cloud" contractor was a new wrinkle. But the AOL proposal was rejected - they forgot to sign RFP!!!
Nigel says competition is a good thing. Qwest and Comcast is not enough. Nigel says Intel is interested in building out an open source software project in Chicago. There problem however; volunteers arent bonded or insured, for example.
Nigel will be a speaker at the City Club of Portland, on May 6th. The City Club speech will be on Oregon Public Broadcasting at 7pm that Friday.
6:25 pm: Darrin Eden:
Darrin says check the wiki web page for the Mississippi Hot Zone Asks if there are any new nodes. Tyler says he moved his mobile node (laughter).
June is deadline for membership to vote for new officers. Darrin reads out membership. Says to see Bob Peterson if you are not a member (you need a node).
6:40 pm: MichaelWeinberg
New Business: Michael overviews developments on The Mississippi Project. Michael wrote the Meyer Memorial Grant to provide the Mississippi Neighborhood with free wireless access, along the main street (Mississippi Avenue), and ajoining areas
Michael gives a roof report.
- First roof, NAYA building on Shaver Avenue (cross street). The building about 2-3 stories high, flat roof, big chimney to mount a 12 foot mast. The second roof, on Fremont, one block off Mississippi (west). Will connect back to building on Shaver. The third building is an attic. With a mast, it might also hit Shaver hub.
Also talking to the Re-Building Center (a large business on the southern section of Mississippi), and business others for possible node inclusion. Michael notified different businesses in the area about The Plan, looking for supporters.
6:50 pm: Mississippi Avenue Committee Reports:
- Rick Lindahl, head of the antenna group, reported that the four people in group are wanting for more recon and topology information before they can decide on specific antennas (sector, panels, omni, etc.) The plan is to use 5 Ghz for the backhaul, and 2.4 Gig for local access Infrastructure group. Is waiting for hardware to get installed. The infrastructure group will coordinate the hardware/software. Hardware will consist of several Metrix 2 boxes from Seattle. They use Soekris embedded boards and have options for 2 radios. The box comes in a water sealed box, with plug connectors, and other things. Software using MIT's meshed Roofnet is being explored (more on that later). Current plans anticipate 6-8 Metrix boxes with 3-4 down Mississippi corridor. Others will connect back to street corridor. Most will be no more than 1 hop to the MARA building which will be the hub with DSL connections..
6:50 pm: Darrin Eden: There will be lots of opportunity to experiment and try different stuff out. The Meyer check has arrived. Equipment has not yet been ordered.
In other news, Darrin says the Kansas City Centurions, sponsored by the city of Kansas City, is sending a team out to Portland investigating WiFi. They will be in Portland, Thursday, May 12, at 3:30pm at City Club downtown office to talk about community tech stuff.
7:00PM: Break.
7:20 pm:Darrin Eden:
Darrin explains that an experiment will be performed tonight. It involves the MIT Roofnet software, which is being tested out as a possible deployment for the Mississippi Avenue Project. Darrin explains that the software project involves Layer 2 (802.11) and Layer 3 (IP based, internet). This mesh system works between the two and uses a single radio.
The Netgear WGT-634U, a $70 box with a USB port and four ports is the basis of this experiment. It uses a MadFi WiFi embedded driver software, and embeds the mesh software to enable multiple hops. Darin says literally anyone can get this thing running.
Tonight's experiment:
- One Netgear Roofnet hotspot is here in building. The other hotspot is on Aaron Johnsons truck., out of site. They cant see each other, and we can't connect with The Truck. We are going to use Dons Bike. Don will bike through the two spots and see if he can form a network bridge and share connections. The radio is both an access point and a client.
don takes off. We are watching the big screen to see if we get a connection....It works!
Much applause and rejoicing.
8:00 pm:Other news:
Alfred Nurnberger of Logitel.com offered to provide VoIP phone numbers. Nurnberger is the CTO of Logitel which operates their own VoIP gateway in Portland. He will give a block of more than 100 VoIP "phone numbers" to PersonalTelco to utilize in the Mississippi Project. Club members will have some. Most of the numbers will be available to individuals along Mississippi. That will enable them to get "free" phone calls. Cheers and applause. Rick Lundel announces that the first Saturday in June (June 4th) will be a payday at the Urban Grind coffee shop. Playday times will run from 12am to 4 pm. Playdays are always great fun and a good opportunity to learn and ask questions. There will be lots of gear and "classes". Brandon Smyth said he is setting up free Wireless will use Netgate with a backhaul radio in Sherwood. Is going in near city hall next Monday. The city hopes to unwire nearby parks and provide other services.
8:30 pm: Meeting Ajourned.